there was a time when i understood where i came from.
most people from my hometown would have similar goals and aspirations.
it has always been diverse and welcoming to outsiders, but now i feel like the outsider and not particularly welcome myself.
If you move to another country you must share in that country's aspirations and goals.Yes, but not absolutely.
Please will you expand, SPAZnik? Could be fascinating Maybe you're thinking along a slightly different line to Peppermint as to what 'aspirations and goals' are?
there was a time when i understood where i came from.
most people from my hometown would have similar goals and aspirations.
it has always been diverse and welcoming to outsiders, but now i feel like the outsider and not particularly welcome myself.
This is a general picture of the change happening in the UK:
http://www.workpermit.com/news/2006_11_21/uk/2-year_immigration_statistics.htm
there was a time when i understood where i came from.
most people from my hometown would have similar goals and aspirations.
it has always been diverse and welcoming to outsiders, but now i feel like the outsider and not particularly welcome myself.
are there any hispanic communities in the UK??
Hi MOG, not many really: http://www.untoldlondon.org.uk/news/ART40460.html
There are probably somewhere between 700,000 to 1,000,000 Latin Americans in the UK. The Brazilians make up the largest group of around 200,000, then there are about 130 - 160,000 Colombians, 70 - 90,000 Ecuadorians and 10 - 15,000 Peruvians. It is hard to quantify the number of Chileans in the UK - many have gone back to Chile, or move fluidly between several places.
These numbers are guesstimates from embassies, community centres and refugee groups, but there has never been a precise census of Latin Americans in the UK. Still, an article in the Guardian in September 2005 argues that Latin Americans are one of the fastest growing communities in the UK. They have gained confidence, creating Sunday schools, taking jobs, and being responsible for many of the 800,000 salsa classes that take place across the UK every night.
Possibly more go to Spain and Portugal if they want to live in Europe?
there was a time when i understood where i came from.
most people from my hometown would have similar goals and aspirations.
it has always been diverse and welcoming to outsiders, but now i feel like the outsider and not particularly welcome myself.
I agree Peppermint - too much change far too quickly now. And it is frightening at times
I think in our town even the well-established Asian community (among the first to arrive in the UK) is feeling intimidated by the sudden large influx of different cultures. I can't say that there has yet been as big an effect as on your home town yet - our biggest cultural shift has been caused by the large numbers of southerners moving up here lol!
there was a time when i understood where i came from.
most people from my hometown would have similar goals and aspirations.
it has always been diverse and welcoming to outsiders, but now i feel like the outsider and not particularly welcome myself.
Peppermints made clickable: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JaszBJ-RIOg&NR=1
No, not gone forever - just how you remember it is gone maybe - but again, is that kind of event a regular occurence? It looks like an annual celebration to me, nothing wrong with that in itself. I think I'd prefer that to this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Bjrgsc1RQ&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=abvuh13qPoo&feature=related
Here's some nicer images for you too
turin shroud tonight.
secrets of 12 apostles.;sunday.
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Just watched the Turin Shroud on BBC iPlayer.
Wow!!! All the physical evidence seems to say its older than mediaeval, only the carbon dating disagrees.
What implications for anything else which relies on C14 dating if it eventually turns out to be corruptible as the scientists are exploring.
Wasn't impressed with 'The Passion' - far too much artistic licence imho.
my great nephew, 8 months old, was killed yesterday.
so far appears to have been murdered by his sitter, a couple with whom my nephew and his girlfriend have been living.
they beat and drowned this little baby.
So sorry to hear of your sudden and tragic loss, my thoughts are with you and your family
dear everyone,.
i have been watching the new bbc production of the passion this easter week.
very good it is too, i think, and its interesting that for the biggest, most expensive star they had in the cast, they gave him the role of pilate, not jesus.
How about this idea? - those spikes would have been big enough to sever or at least badly damage the major nerves in the arms, hence rendering said arms useless/paralysed so the victim couldn't have extracted themselves from their position. Would it be reasonable to think that the victim would have been more preoccupied with keeping breathing?
Another thought - I don't know about anyone else, maybe its because I have rotten circulation but if I had my arms raised in the position as shown in the BBC version, the blood quickly leaves them and they become incredibly 'heavy' and I lose any ability to control them, they just drop by themselves - if they were nailed or just tied in that position (so regardless of nerve damage) I would be powerless to make my arms do anything.
Also because they were crucified in 'squat' position with a 'seat' (can't remember the Latin term, sorry!) to stop them from completely hanging by their arms, the spikes wouldn't have ripped along the arm towards the hands.
I do think the soldiers would have had to tie their victims down in order to nail them though! And weren't the victims usually left on the cross for a few days too? If so, the soldiers could have removed the spikes (valuable and rare commodity) and left them tied with the ropes. So nailing and tying might be more of the norm.
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gus_gus, mouthy's daughter and my aunt, asked me to post this for mouthy and nathan.
grace i don't know how you are doing this but every picture i see of you makes you look younger and younger.
Don't know how I missed it first time round Granny but you look fab - reet fetching - as we say in God's own county of Yorkshire!
I believe the cockney description is 'fine and dandy'?
Whichever lol!
so i don't want to play anymore.. i'm taking my ball and going home.
my turn to rant.
jesus christ, burn.. if you have god almighty on your side, what's with all the frustration?.
Nvr
I say this with total honesty.
You aren't the Nvr you used to be
